[Show all top banners]

Kancho
Replies to this thread:

More by Kancho
What people are reading
Subscribers
:: Subscribe
Back to: Kurakani General Refresh page to view new replies
 Himal Media Journalists attacked

[Please view other pages to see the rest of the postings. Total posts: 148]
PAGE: <<  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8  
[VIEWED 75712 TIMES]
SAVE! for ease of future access.
The postings in this thread span 8 pages, go to PAGE 1.

This page is only showing last 20 replies
Posted on 12-21-08 1:52 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     1       ?     Liked by
 

Himalayan Times:

THT Online
Kathmandu, December 21 - Cadres of the Maoist affiliated Unions this afternoon attacked the offices and personnel of Himal Media. According to reports Maoists affiliated Hotel and Restaurants workers union cadres attacked Himal Media publisher Kunda Dixit and Managing Director Aushutosh Tiwari among others. They also vadalised the offices of the publications. There are reports of injuries to journalists and other personnel of the publications.


 
The postings in this thread span 8 pages, go to PAGE 1.

This page is only showing last 20 replies
Posted on 01-02-09 10:33 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

Winners And Losers in Himal Media Prakaran
----------------------------------------------------
Winners:

1. The Maoists --- This issue was mishandled from the start. In a country where citizens have been cowed down, industrialists have been harrassed and institutions have been thrown into topsy turvy by the goons of YCL, the Maoists found a perfect redherring to divert attention from their more heinous crimes. Kathmandu didn't care when a small time journalist Bikas Thapa was threatened, Kathmandu didn't care when centuries old tradition in Pashupatinath was discontinued and YCL goons ushered in their appointee in Pashupatinath (exactly the way Chinese govt appoints Panchen Lama flouting the tradition). By pointing at relative level of decibels in different incidences, the Maoists were able to prove that the country still belongs to rich people. Poors suffer quietly, rich whimper and throw tantrums.

2. Those Two Criminals: They are now identifiable, they have built their resume for their supporters to see, and what more, they knew that their punishment wouldn't be harsh anyway. I mean what can law do about an incident of beating? Five days of lock-up and a few thousands rupees of fine, right? If someone has to follow rule, jatti karae pani, that's the worst punishment.

3. Ex-Royalists: Judging by the glee of ex-royalists in sajha, it is hard not to note 'we-told-you-so' chuckles. Well, folks, we democrats knew where we were heading, but we have to deal with one at a time! Despite the chuckles, you are still humiliated lots, you are still just the pretender who still waive at the parade that has long passed by. But enjoy your moment of glory.



Losers:
=========
1. Industrialists: The industrialists are bitterly disappointed lot right now. Himal media chose to stick to 'press freedom' naaraa, eventhough the incident has not much to do with the press freedom. The incidence started long ago, when they fired some people after finding they lost money. It was within their rights to do so, but the majdoor union walaa started throwing stones , burning newspapers etc. This problem is similar to what all Nepali industrialists are suffering, and Dixit brothers could have spoken like an employer demanding good environment for investment, for the protection of individual property rights, and for weak worker's union. But they chose the easier path, and they accomplished nothing. The message is again simple: if you are from well connected moneyed class of Kathmandu, may be you won't be touched by the Maoists--but the rest of Nepal belongs to them. The pussy intellectuals and petty burgeouise of Kathmandu will be happy to hide their head in the sand--until it is their head that is being chopped by the Maoists.

2. Law: It has always lost in Nepal, more so at this time. YCL is the law.

3. The People: Yet one more time, we saw the flagrant violation of law, an influential group of people able to extract some concession from the terrorists. The rest of us got the clear message: make a deal with the terrorists if you want to survive, and don't expect anyone to help you.
 
4. US based Nepali organizations like NAC: They issued communique, as if it mattered. But then where are they when other similar incidences happen to other journalists/newspapers? Are they going to issue some communique over the Maoists intervention in centuries-old traditions, such as discontinuation of jatra money or the overt intervention in Pashupati. The attack on Pashupatinath is the attack on the tradition that concerns Nepali all over the world, Hindus all over the world. Pashupatinath , after all , doesn't belong to one country, he is the god of all Hindus. So, to say that it is humiliating to find Indian Bhatta worshipping Pashupati is a idiocy at worst. NRNs, foreign based Nepali should be the first to quash this quasi-patriotism, shouldn't they?

Bhagawan Pashupatinath le haamee sabaiko kalyan garun.

 
Posted on 01-03-09 12:01 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

newstudent jyu,
actually if i may opine. i believe what you have summarized is the outcome of what nepal has been going through for last 18 years. its not "winners and losers of himal media prakaran" rather " Once a declared Zone of Peace: Now a Failed State: Nepal"

and if we really think about there are no "winners" for what has(/will) happened(/occurr)/transpir(ed)

we are all the ultimate losers.

our political leaders act as if they donot know but in reality they are fully aware of it.
its human tendency "to be the slave of  materialist need,
worldy desire, and greed"
[ and by all means i am no exception. ]

================================================================================

 
Posted on 01-03-09 4:47 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

Thapap wrote:

>..from your posting since i have been in sajha .. it never

>appeared or represented as being an apolitical. it always

>appeared that you were supporting republic nepal especially

>maoist.

>now seems like u are changing your representation ....

>what happened you lost faith in your comrades...

 

 

Thapap-jyu,

 

यदि यहाँले मेरो political affiliation को बारेमा चिन्ता गर्नुभएको हो भने, नेपालको राजनैतिक दल त के अमेरिकाका अराजनैतिक सामाजिक संघसंस्थाहरुमा समेत आबद्ध नभएर एक्लै बसिरहेको सन्यासी जोगी हुँ म । संघ, संस्थाबाट टाढै रहेको एउटा कारण तीनमा मैले देखेको आपसी राजनीति (एउटै उद्देश्यका पनि अनेक प्रतिस्पर्धी संगठनहरु जो देख्तछु म) पनि हो । संघसस्थाका त्यति जाबो पितिक्क खुद्रा राजनीति त नपच्ने मलाई राजनैतिक दलको थोकै राजनीति रुच्ने कुरै भएन । आजसम्म सेवन गरेको छुईन ।

 

त्यसैले मेरो राजनैतिक independence को बारेमा ढुक्क हुनुभए हुन्छ ।

 

जहाँसम्म गणतन्त्रको पक्षमा मेरो advocacy ले मलाई माओवादी कित्तामा पुर्‍याउँछ भन्ने खालको तपाईको आरोप/निचोड छ, त्यसमा त्रुटीपूर्ण assumptions छन् । पहिलो त पुरै पुर्‍याउने होईन । दोश्रो, गणतन्त्रको हदसम्मको commonality, जसरी व्याख्या गरेपनि, आपत्तिजनक हुनुपर्ने कारण छैन । यो कुरा लम्बेतान व्याख्या गरिरहन पर्ने हो जस्तो लाग्दैन, त्यसैले यसबारे यत्ति नै ।

 

बरु माओवादीलाई पुरै dismiss गर्ने (गर्नु पर्ने वा गर्न सकिने) जुन assumption तपाईको कुराहरुमा झल्किन्छ त्यसबारे केही । सबभन्दा पहिले त अहिलेको अवस्थामा (माओवादीको superior राजनैतिक विकल्प तयार भईनसकेको अवस्थामा) यो हावादारी गफ हो । दोश्रो, माओवादीलाई, जस्तो मैले earlier पोस्टिङहरुमा व्याख्या गरेको छु, व्यापक जनदबाब (जस्तै: जनप्रदर्शन) द्वारा कामचलाउ सम्मको ठीक ठाउँमा ल्याउन सकिदैन भनेर प्रमाणित भईसक्या छैन (एकबाजी त्यस्तो प्रदर्शन भयो भने अनि कुरो छर्लङग हुन्छ ।

 

खासमा भन्नुहुन्छ भने अहिलेको समस्या भनेको के हो भने माओवादी द्वैध राजनीति गर्दैछ (उसले दुईवटा डुङ्गामा गोडा टेकेर यात्रा गरिरहेको छ, एउटा अधिनायकवादी डुङ्गा, एउटा लोकतान्त्रिक सम्झौतावादी डुङ्गा) । उसलाई एकबाजी बेस्सरी हल्लाईदिन पाए, उसले एउटा डुङ्गा छाडेर एउटामा बस्न वाध्य हुनुपर्ने हुन्थ्यो । हो, त्यसबेलामा उ जुन डुङ्गामा बस्छ त्यसै अनुसार हामीले उसलाई जे गर्नुपर्ने हो त्यो ढुक्कसंग गर्न हुन्थ्यो ।

 

मेरो अहिलेको advocacy यत्ति हो ।

 

Nepe  


 
Posted on 01-03-09 6:22 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

Nepe is angry with Maoists.. and pouring venom now.. because after Maoists coming to Power, Nepe didn't gain anything as he had expected.. no post, no financial benefits or other perks.. that's why Nepe is changing is writing direction.... ha ha... This Nepe is nothing but an opportunists.. too bad he spent all his efforts defending Maoists in the past...

Another one Bites the Dust !!

 
Posted on 01-04-09 1:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

Ved555,

 

माओवादीसंग मलाई रिस उठेको पनि हो र यसका व्यक्तिगत भने पनि हुने कारण पनि छन् ।

 

झण्डै झण्डै यहाँले भन्नुभए जस्तै पद, सुविधा वा अवसर नपाउने छाँट देखेरै हो खासमा म क्रुद्ध भएको, तर कति भने म माओवादीको कृपाबाट होईन आफ्नै परिश्रमबाट, आफ्नै दशनङ्ग्री खियाएर पाईने अवसरको सपनामा थिएँ ।

 

मलाई आसा थियो अब त्यस्तो अवस्था सिर्जना गर्ने स्थिरता, निश्चितता र कानुनीराजको स्थापना हुनेछ र प्रवासमा निस्सार जीवन बिताईरहेका बौद्धिकवर्ग देखि कष्टकर काम गरिरहेका कामदारहरु समेत आफुले जोडेका दुईपैसा, अनुभव र सबभन्दा महत्वपूर्ण त ईख बोकेर स्वदेशमै फर्की नयाँ नयाँ व्यवसाय र सिर्जनात्मक काम थाल्नेछन् ।

 

तपाई र अन्य साझावासीहरुको अनुभव सुनाउनुहोस् त, नेपाल फर्किन्छु भन्नेलाई नेपालका साथीभाईहरु र बन्धुवान्धव के सल्लाह दिन्छन । पागल भए आईज, नभए पनि यहाँ आएपछि पक्का पागल हुन्छस् भन्दैनन् ?

 

प्रवासीको स्वदेशफिर्ती त कता हो कता, स्वदेशमै व्यवसाय गरीबसेकालाई पनि टिकिनसक्नु पारेका छन्, यी क्रान्तिकारी माओवादीहरुले-- एकातिर राजनैतिक दलाल मजदुर जत्थाको राजनीति अभिप्रेरित जोधाहापनबाट (राजनैतिक दलाली नगर्ने विशुद्ध पेशेवेर युनियनवाद भएको भए यतिञ्जेल व्यवसायी र मजदूर दुवैको यथोचित हितको सन्तुलनमा रहेको श्रम ऐनको निर्माण र पालना समेत भईरहेको हुनेथियो ! ), र अर्कातिर हतियारधारी जत्थाहरुलाई नियन्त्रण गर्ने दर्शन र संयन्त्र बनाउन नसकेर ।

 

माओवादीको सबभन्दा हानीकारक वैचारिक inadequacy के हो भने wealth प्रति सम्मानको सट्टा ईर्श्या, व्यवसायीहरुलाई शोषकको रुपमा हेर्ने दृष्टिकोण, wealth  को creation होईन distribution लाई प्राथमिक आवश्यकता देख्‍ने सैद्धान्तिक धरातल ।

 

माओवादीको यो पक्षको विरोध गर्न म कहिले चुकेको छैन (गत २५ वर्षदेखि लगातार गर्दै आएको छु, माओवादीको पुर्खाहरुको पालादेखि )

 

सम्पन्नता बिनाको समानता symbolic मात्र हुन जाने र त्यसले कसैलाई पनि वास्तविक पाईदा नहुने हुनाले हाम्रो सारा ध्येय र प्रयास सम्पन्नता बढाउनेतिर लक्षित हुनुपर्छ भन्ने मेरो दर्शन हो नेपालको लागि । त्यसैले नेपाललाई चलाख अर्थतन्त्र र सम्पन्नताको तिव्र-मार्ग चाहिन्छ भनेर भन्दै आएको हुँ ।

 

आर्थिक मामला त के जातिय मुद्धामा समेत यो दर्शन लागु हुन्छ । प्रगतिरत अर्थतन्त्रबिना inclusion ले पनि excluded हरुमध्ये अधिकांशको जीवनमा केही परिवर्तन ल्याउदैन । निरन्तर गरिबीमा लागु हुने inclusion भनेको excluded groups बाट केही मुठ्ठीभर मानिसलाई संभ्रान्त वर्गमा परिवर्तन गरी पुराना र नयाँ संभ्रान्त वर्गले मिलिजुली खाने inclusion मात्र हो ।

 

मधेसी जातिय आन्दोलन नै हेरुम न । हालसम्मका हकमा फाईदा लिने को छ ? संभ्रान्त मधेसीहरु नै । (मधेसका आपराधिक गिरोहहरुले पनि फाईदा उठाईरहेका छन्, तर त्यो अस्थायी र फरक मुद्धा समेत हो) ।

 

घुमीफिरी मेरो कुराको सार के हो भने, नेपालको विद्यमान सम्पूर्ण समस्याको वास्तविक समाधान अर्थतन्त्र नै हो ।

 

हामीले जप्नुपर्ने मन्त्र यही हो: अर्थतन्त्रनाथले हामी सबैको कल्याण गरुन् (It’s the economy, stupid !)

 

माओवादीलाई यो दिक्षा जबर्जस्ती दिलाउन र मन्दिरका पुजारी नियुक्तिमा होईन अर्थतन्त्रका पुजारी बटुल्ने र अर्थतन्त्रकै पुजा गर्ने काम गर्न लगाउन मैले एउटा आन्दोलनको आवश्यकता देखेको हुँ ।

 

Nepe

 


 
Posted on 01-04-09 9:21 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

nepe,
exactly, but wasn't that the case for monarchy too - not getting cooperation? then why  one standard can not be applied equally to all side? Hearing more from one side more while the other chose to be silent does not change the real truth itself or does it? My intention was to force the consistency in argument always no matter what your beliefs are so that readers can get  something out of it -without it is just a never ending misleading talk. Just because  Prachanda cried foul loud in Tudikel does not make contender of anymore sympathy or that makes him the newly found failed truth telling leader. Of course you implied that Prachanda solely responsible for everything but  also not without branding him as a trusted man with whole world against but do you really know the inside truth?. Hence adhere to one principle you believe in and meaure it, like - success matter no matter what, adding woulda, coulda or but   to favourable one only leads to the contradictory  sounding statements and people really start to question what you really believe in the first place?  and also funny side effect with lack of standard in writing, it is one more step toward legitimizing second chance monarchy  or girija without actually knowing that you are advocating it which i'm sure you don't want.
You went furthermore with  ridiculous proxy argument - maoist as a miracle and one slap deserving
political status quo power house since uml congress are incompetent. Presence of incompetent opposition of incompetent govt. can not be claim as competent (or close to) govt.   Didn't we already prove this by finding alternative of 240 yrs old de facto institution?
Don't ask me the million dollar question , who's gonna be next after maoist  because I really don't know but politics always take shapes in dire need, that is all i know. It may be not favourable to you me or population but raising keeping warning bunch of robbers to deter theives(or may be another robber) is unheard of. If you are worried about the future of country, we are already in the roulette table, aren't we? So lets hope for the best hand.
बाहिर चोरहरु हाऊगुजी देखाएर नेपालीहरुलाइ मुतको न्यानोमा नसुताम , फेरी नयाँ बिस्तराको मांग गरदैमा समस्या हल हुने पनि होइन, समस्या त मुत नै हो नि ‌‌?

 
Posted on 01-05-09 1:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

पत्रकारले थोत्रो बाहुनवादचाहिँ टक्टक्याउने कि! – सरोजदिलु विश्वकर्मा


पत्रकार महोदयहरू! तपाईंहरू पनि लेख्ने, म पनि जानीनजानी झीनो–मसिनो लेख्ने, तपार्इं र मेरा समस्या उस्तै हुन्। तपाईंमाथि भएको आक्रमणले मलाई पनि दुख्छ। यसर्थमा माओवादीसम्बद्ध भनिएका मजदुरहरूले समय–समयमा आमसञ्चार जगत्मा आक्रमण गरेर प्रेस स्वतन्त्रतामाथि धावा बोल्नुभन्दा अगाडि आफ्ना मागहरू सम्बोधन गराउने प्रक्रियामा विधिअनुसार चल्नुपर्ने थियो, तर सरकारकै नेतृत्व गरेको दलका कार्यकर्ताहरूले आफैं विधिको ठाडो उल्लंघन गरिरहेकै हो। यसमा सहमत। माओवादी कार्यकर्तामा जितको दम्भ र व्यवहारमा विचलन आएकै हो। पार्टी अध्यक्ष प्रचण्डले भनेजस्तै कुनैबेलाका पारसको सहयोगी ग्याङ मानिने देशभक्त संघ र मिलन केन्द्रका कार्यकर्ताहरू छिरेर त्यो दलभित्रका इमानदर कार्यकर्ताहरूलाई नै बद्नाम र भयभीत पार्दै आएका छन्। अब तिनीहरूद्वारा माओवादी पत्रकार वा समर्थकहरूकै ज्यान जानु मामुली कुरा भइसक्यो। परिणामतः आज मिडिया हाउसहरू आक्रान्त र असुरक्षित भएका छन्, यसका लागि ऐक्यबद्ध आन्दोलन हुनैपर्दछ। यसमा पनि म सहमत।
तर अर्काको जीउको जुम्रो कोट्याउँदा आफ्नो जीउको भैंसी नदेख्ने हाम्रो पत्रकारिता धर्मसमेतलाई प्रथमतः विश्लेषण गर्ने पो हो कि? जताततै समावेशीकरण र विचारको सममूल्यांकनको बहस चलिरहँदा यो पत्रकार जगत्ले पुरानै जनै–पटासी गुथिरहेका पो छन् कि? अथवा नयाँ नेपाल निर्माण गर्ने यस महानतम घडीमा हाम्रो क्षेत्रमा सर्वसाधारण जजमानहरूका गिदी भुटेर होमादि गर्ने र अन्ततोगत्वा गुलियो टपरा चाट्ने पण्डित–राज पो भएको छ कि?? त्यतातर्फ समेत विचार गरी यो पत्रकारिताले आफूले हिँडेको धरातलको गहिराइ विश्लेषण गर्नुपर्ने हुन्छ।
पत्रकारिता पक्कै राष्ट्रको चौथो अंग हो भने पत्रकारिता नै राजनीतिक र प्रशासनिक क्षेत्रपछिको तेस्रो, बाहुनवादी अंग पनि साबित भएको कुरालाई मनन गर्नैपर्दछ, जहाँ वास्तविक र सिर्जनात्मक काम–कुरा हुनेभन्दा बाहुनधर्मीय कुमाईका घुमाइहरू ज्यादा हुने गरेका छन्। यी ठूला मिडियाहरूमा वरिष्ठ बाहुन पत्रकार–सम्पादकज्यूहरू आ–आफ्ना अखडामा बसी नयाँ ढंगको बाहुनवादी धर्मकर्म गरिरहेका छन्, केन्द्रमा बसेर राज गर्ने यी अड्डाहरू साना तिललाई ठूलाठूला पहाड बनाई त्यसलाई बेचेर सामन्तहरू पोसाउनमा केन्द्रित छन्। दलितको सन्दर्भमा हेर्ने हो भने बाहुनमय यी पत्रकारहरूको कुनै पनि तप्काहरूमा दलितको अस्तित्व स्वीकारेको पाइँदैन। यद्यपि, आर्थिक लाभ हुने स्थिति छ भने ती सम्पादक–पत्रकारहरू आ–आफ्ना नाक चोवल्न हातपाउ टेकेरै आफैंलाई महादलित घोषणा गर्न पछि पर्दैनन्। तर समग्रमा दलितका समाचारहरूलाई एकादुयक, (यदि सोसमेत नकारात्मक सन्देश दिनेछ भने) बाहेकलाई समेटेको बिरलै छ। दलितको त फाइभ स्टारका होटलका कार्यक्रमसमेत यिनीहरूलाई गन्हाउँछ भने सडकको कार्यक्रम त दूरको बात हो। एउटै महत्त्व भएको दलित र गैरदलितको कार्यक्रमको समाचार प्रसारण गर्दा वा पस्किँदा गैरदलित समाचारहरूलाई उचित स्थान र स्पेस दिइन्छ, तर दलितका मन्त्री, अन्य वरिष्ठ व्यक्तित्व वा साहित्यकारहरूको विशिष्ट र सिर्जनात्मक समाचारहरू नै किन नहोस्, त्यसलाई बेवास्ता गरिएको सत्य हो। बरु, कुनै बाह्रमासे फटाहा नेताले कहाँ के कुरा खुस्काउँछ, त्यसलाई खोजीखोजी बढाइचढाई गरेर त्यसको व्यापार हुन्छ, बद्नाम र भ्रष्टहरूले बोलेका कुराहरू राष्ट्रिय महत्त्वको विषय बनाइन्छ, राष्ट्रपति बन्न नपाएको गिरिजाको अलाप राष्ट्रिय/अन्तर्राष्ट्रियस्तरको चर्चाको विषय बन्छ, तर दलित सभासद्हरूले उठाएका विषयहरूलाई मन्त्री पदको लालची भएको भन्ने बहानामा लत्याइएको छ। अब भन्नोस् धर्मेन्द्रजी! के कुनै दलितले मन्त्री वा विशिष्ट पदमा दावा गर्दै नगर्नू भन्ने नै पत्रकारिता धर्म हो?
सञ्चार जगत्माथिको हस्तक्षेपहरू यिनै बाहुनवादमाथिको अतिरिक्त प्रतिशोध पनि हो, जसलाई मजदुर आन्दोलनको नाममा थप प्रोत्साहित गरिएको छ। अथवा सञ्चार जगत्द्वारा गरिएको शोषण र उपेक्षा घरिघरि सतहमा छचल्किएको पनि हुनसक्दछ। जबकि, पत्रकारिता धर्मले पहिले नजानिँदो, नदेखिँदो ढंगले पीडा दिने, शेाषण गर्ने अनि बिच्क्याउने र बिच्क्याइसकेपछि त्राहि–त्राहि आफैं हुँदै मानवअधिकारकर्मी तथा अन्तर्राष्ट्रिय समुदायसँग गुहार माग्ने पुरातन धर्मबाट यी अभिजात पत्रकारहरू अझ बाहिर आउन सकेका छैनन्। अतः हामीले अति आदर गर्नुपर्ने बाहुनवादी पत्रकार मित्र हो! सञ्चार जगत् आफैं बोक्सी, आफैं झाँक्रीजस्तो भएको छ। अझ, विचार प्रवाह र लेखरचनाको सन्दर्भमा भन्ने हो भने त यी तथाकथित केन्द्रीय ठूला मिडिया हाउसहरू आ–आफ्ना आसेपासे र खोपी–पोल्टाका बाहुन पाल्ने अखडा मात्रै साबित भएको सत्य नै हो, जबकि यस्ता सञ्चारगृहमा उही पुराना पुरेत–बाहरूकै अवशेषहरूको दबदबा छ, जसले राष्ट्र र समाजका लागि जस्तोसुकै मूल्यवान् हुनेगरी दलितले विचार पोखेको र कलम चलाएकोलाई रुचाउँदैनन्। केहीले साना र क्षणिक स्थान पाए पनि ती सबै तिनै बाहुन धर्मअनुकूलका अथवा उनीहरूलाई सुरक्षित पार्ने किसिमको हुनैपर्दछ। यसर्थमा, राम्रै परिणामका लागि कसैलाई सानोतिनो विरोध गरिहाले पनि १०८ महापण्डित पत्रकारज्यूहरूले त्यसलाई विशालकाय पर्वत बनाएर जतिसुकै कुर्लिए पनि कुकुरको पुच्छर सोझै हो भनेर स्वदेशी–विदेशीहरूको दिमागसमेत भुट्दै आएका छन्। विगत १०–१२ वर्षमा हुनसम्म बद्नाम र भ्रष्टहरूका पुराना गन्थनमन्थनले विशेष महत्त्वका साथ तिनका पत्रपत्रिकामा स्थान पाउँछन्, राज्यको व्यवस्थापकीय निकायमा पुगेर सिन्को भाँच्न नजान्ने र पदबाट बाहिर आउनासाथ 'यो त्यो हुनुपर्दछ' भनी विचार कुर्लने तोरीलाउरे बाहुनहरूका कथाव्यथाहरू हाइलाइट हुन्छन्। तर जतिसुकै सत्य र यो राष्ट्रका लागि केही न केही नयाँ कुरा दिऔं भन्ने दलितका विचारहरू विभिन्न क्राइटेरिया लगाएर रड्डीको टोकरीमा हुत्याइन्छन्। यसमा भने सोह्रै आना असहमत।
मेरा परमपुज्यनीय पत्रकार बन्धुहरू!! यही नै हो बाहुनवाद। अमेरिकी साम्राज्यवाददेखि यसको विरोध गर्ने दलितैलाई समेत यस भाइरसले सताएको छ, जसबाट हाम्रो पत्रकारिता धर्म पनि अछूतो रहन सकेको छैन। फुटाउने, भत्काउने र तहसनहस गर्ने अनि त्यसमै आनन्द लिने संस्कारमा हुर्किएको छ– हाम्रो आमसञ्चार जगत्। मिथ्या कुराहरूलाई समेत जतिसक्दो जबरजस्त सत्य तुल्याएर कुहिरोमा व्यापार गरी फाइदा लिने काम भएको छ। गहिरिएर सोचौं– यतिसम्म कि संघीयताको मोडल र समानुपातिकको संरचनाका बारेमा नेपालीत्व भड्काउने काममा हाम्रो पत्रकारिता जगत् सबैभन्दा अगाडि छ। उनीहरू एउटा बाहुनको विचारले मान्छे उचाल्छन्, अर्को बाहुनको कुराले मान्छे पछार्छन्। अहिले तिनै बाहुनवादी कुराले जातीय राज्यको सन्दर्भमा रक्तपात हुने स्थिति देखापरेको छ। तसर्थ, आफैंभित्र रहेको सामन्तवादी संस्कार र बाहुनवादी ढर्रालाई समेत टक्टक्याउँदै नयाँ सिर्जना र स्वच्छन्दताका लागि तपार्इं पत्रकारहरू लागिपरे हामी दलित समुदायले पनि पत्रकारिता जगत्माथि हुने गरेको नांगो हस्तक्षेप र ज्यादतीविरुद्ध सहमति जनाउन र नैतिक वा भौतिकरूपमै साथ दिन सकिन्थ्यो कि!!


http://weeklynepal.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17806


 
Posted on 01-05-09 4:33 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

Who wins and who losses; should we narrow them into sub categories when the nation (its way of life, its future), social transformation for betterment, are lossing and the victors; advocators of might is always right and violence for a reason is justifiable. It is for us to decide where we support, it is not the incidence that is important it is culture we are setting in the society and for generations to come. I am finding ill-discipline and violence at forefront over logics in petty disputes now in Nepal. Never saw things like students having no remorse in attempted doushing of petrol over their CC over a small issue in the past. Dear friends as a witness to the changes in Nepali society it is not a happy picture and when such activities gets glorified the rush to compete for bad always remains. It is far worse back home then you may be imagining.
 
Posted on 01-05-09 6:37 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

 


 >बाहिर चोरहरु हाऊगुजी देखाएर नेपालीहरुलाइ मुतको न्यानोमा


>नसुताम , फेरी नयाँ बिस्तराको मांग गरदैमा समस्या हल हुने


>पनि होइन, समस्या त मुत नै हो नि ‌‌?


 


 


 


Mr Truth,


 


माओवादीको हाललाई गतिलो विकल्प उपल्ब्ध नभएको मान्दा पनि, जसरी निकट अतितमा राजा फालेपछिको भ्याक्युम पुरा गर्ने गतिलो नेतृत्व उपलब्ध नहुँदा नहुँदै पनि देखा जाएगा भन्दै जनताले राजा फाले, त्यसै गरी अहिलेपनि देखा जाएगा भन्दै माओवादी पनि फाल्नु पर्छ र त्यसो गर्दा खेरि नै consistent राजनैतिक तर्क प्रयोग गरेको ठहर्दछ भन्ने तपाईको बहस हो भने त्यसमा दम छ र तपाईले नेपाली जनतालाई त्यही कुरा सुनाउनु भए हुन्छ ।


 


तर मेरो हकमा भने, हिजो राजा फाल्ने बेलामा पनि र आज माओवादी फाल्ने बहस (presumably) भईरहदा पनि मेरो एउटै consistent सुझाब/advocacy के थियो/छ भने राजनैतिक vacuum उत्पन्न हुने देखिसकेपछि त्यसलाई पुर्ने competent नेतृत्व/शक्ति तयार पारीहाल्नु पर्छ नत्र यात्रा कष्टकर र दुर्घटनाले भरिएको हुन्छ ।


 


हिजो मैले त्यस्तो competent नेतृत्व तयार पार्न के के सुझाएको थिएँ, ककस्लाई सुझाएको थिएँ, कसरी र केके तर्कले मेरो सुझाव रद्धिको टोकरीमा पुग्यो  आदि मेरा दर्दनाक कथा सुनाउनु भन्दा पहिले यति भन्न चाहन्छु, जनआन्दोलन पछि यताका सारा महंगा महंगा अनिश्चितता, ढिलासुस्ती, अराजकता र अनपेक्षित हिंसा incompetent नेतृत्वको कारण हो भनेर देख्‍न गाह्रो छैन । किनभने जनआन्दोलन देखि यता तीनवर्षमा देखिएका अपेक्षित र अनपेक्षित हरेक समस्यामा कुनै यस्तो एउटा पनि समस्या छैन, जुन लोकतान्त्रिक गणतन्त्र र यससंग आवद्ध मुल्यमान्यताद्वारा सम्बोधन र समाधान गर्न नसकियोस् ।


 


अनि Competenet cometenet भन्दा म के कुरामा सतर्क नै छु भने मैले नेपालको राजनैतिक क्षेत्रको बौद्धिक यथार्थप्रति आँखा चिम्लेर आकाशबाट झर्ने competent नेतृत्वको कुरा गरेको चाही होईन ।


 


गणतन्त्रलाई पूर्ण रुपले internalize गरिसकेका र स्वच्छ छवि (हुन त यो शब्द cliché भईसक्यो तर पनि यसले अझै अर्थ राख्‍छ) का एकजनालाई नेपाली कांग्रेसको राजसिंहासनमा विराजमान गराउन सकियो भने नेपाली कांग्रेसले ठूलो नैतिक पुँजी प्राप्त गर्छ । अनि उसले नेपाली कांग्रेसलाई legacy मुक्त नयाँ दलको रुपमा रुपान्तरण गर्ने सम्मको स्वतन्त्रता पायो भने, काम तमाम भयो भनेर सम्झे हुन्छ । एमालेको हकमा पनि त्यही कुरा लागु हुन्छ । अन्यथा कोईराला, देउबा, माकुने र झनाख हरुले हाँकेका टपरटुईयाँ दल  माओवादीको विकल्पको रुपमा प्रस्तुत हुन त्यत्तिकै हो ।


 


अब पुराना कुरा । विस्तृत बयानबाट सबैलाई बोर गर्न चाहन्न । यत्ति भन्छु - शुरुमा मलाई नागरिक समाजले तदर्थ राजनैतिक नेतृत्व दिन सक्छ कि भन्ने आसा थियो र लोकतन्त्र र शान्ति को लागि नागरिक आन्दोलन (CMDP) वालाहरुलाई त्यसबारे सोच्न लगाउन मरिमेटी लागेको थिएँ । अन्य कुरासंगसंगै मलाई के पनि किञ्चित आसा थियो भने यो आन्दोलन विस्तार भएर एउटा व्यापक दल (सबै दलका योग्य योग्य नेताहरु यसैमा सम्मिलित भएर) मा परिणत हुन सक्यो भने त के चाहियो । तर नागरिक आन्दोलनका अगुवाहरुको view भने आन्दोलनलाई सिमित भूमिकामै राख्‍नुपर्छ भन्ने थियो, र मैले ज्यान गए पनि बुझाउन मनाउन सकिनँ मेरो कुरा ।


 


नागरिक अगुवाहरुसंग निराश भएपछि संसदिय दलहरुको रुपान्तरणतिर खर्च गरियो सारा बहस र उर्जा । संसदिय दलका समर्थकहरुले के भनेर मेरा कुरालाई ईन्कार गर्थे भने अब राजाको शासनको अन्त्य अवश्यंभावी छ, त्यसैले दल-रुपान्तरणको हतार छैन, त्यो भनेको सत्ता हातमा परेपछि गर्दै गर्दा हुन्छ ।


 


माओवादीसंग गरिएको १२ बुँदे सम्झौतामा माओवादी र संसदिय दलहरुले जनताको नाममा अब हामी सुध्रिन्छम् हामीलाई समर्थन गर्नुहोस् भनेर किटेरै भनेका छन्  (माओवादीले बुँदा नं ६ र संसदिय दलहरुले बुँदा नं ७ मा ) ।


 


सत्ता हातमा पर्‍यो, प्रतिज्ञा पनि बिर्स्यो ।


 


अब कुरा छोट्याम ।


 


अहिलेसम्म जेजति समय र अन्य कुरा अनावश्यक रुपमा खेर गए पनि हामी अघि बढ्नको लागि चाहिने सम्पूर्ण साधन र श्रोत हामीसंग छ (गणतन्त्रको national resolve छ, संविधान-सभा छ, अलिकति क्षतविक्षत भए पनि आम मानिसमा उज्यालो भविष्यको आसा र प्रतिक्षा छ र सबभन्दा ठूलो कुरा त चाहिएको खण्डमा फेरि फेरि पटक पटक जनआन्दोलन गर्न सक्ने साहस र जाँगर नेपाली जनतामा छ ।


 


अब यी साधन र श्रोतको उपयोग गर्ने ट्याम आयो भन्ने मेरो देखाई हो । र मेरो जोड चाही के भने पुरानो कमजोरीबाट सिक्न पनि पर्‍यो ।


 


अहिलेलाई यतिमै विश्राम लिएँ ।


 


Nepe


 
Posted on 01-07-09 12:45 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 


 

Last edited: 21-Mar-09 02:04 PM

 
Posted on 01-07-09 8:20 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

Nepe,"जसरी निकट अतितमा राजा फालेपछिको भ्याक्युम पुरा गर्ने गतिलो नेतृत्व उपलब्ध नहुँदा नहुँदै पनि देखा जाएगा भन्दै जनताले राजा फाले, त्यसै गरी अहिलेपनि देखा जाएगा भन्दै माओवादी पनि फाल्नु पर्छ र त्यसो गर्दा खेरि नै consistent राजनैतिक तर्क प्रयोग गरेको ठहर्दछ भन्ने तपाईको बहस हो भने त्यसमा दम छ र तपाईले नेपाली जनतालाई त्यही कुरा सुनाउनु भए हुन्छ ."


Ayy ho ra ? ha ha ha Khoi tyo Afno Murkhata lai liyera Nepali Janata lai dosh diney ? ha ha ha Typical Politician. Gyaney Chor desh chood bhanera UN Building agaadi Nepali Janata matrai thiyoo NEPE CHAHI TYAHAA THIYENA. ha ha ha Hasaucha yo manchey ley. Hami lai ta Ullu banauna khojcha ke bhanney !!! ha ha ha


 
Posted on 01-07-09 8:33 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

Gyaney Chor desh chood bhanera UN Building agaadi Nepali Janata matrai thiyoo NEPE CHAHI TYAHAA THIYENA???


Nepe was also among these Bheda Nepali Janata niiiiiiii Raja fale pachhi Nepal 10000 MW ko battile jhaljhalkar sworga hunchha bhanneharu maddhe ke, kasto kura nabujhyaa, BC le. Bichara Nepe!!!

 

Nepe wrote on Republic Nepal issue:

Happy first Republic Day to Newuser, Loote, Captain and all celebrating Nepalis !

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openthread.cfm.cfm?StartRow=1&PageNum=1&forum=2&threadid=60194#597608

 

I am missing the euphoria of the night of 24th April 2006, when I was so certain about the birth of the republic any minute. There has been some waiting fatigue and some developments that are making my personal celebration somewhat subdued. However I join all to celebrate and welcome republic Nepal.

 

Yet I can not help sharing this feeling that republic, my beloved, arrived today not alone but with somebody I am not fully familiar with. I was trying to put that in a shayari and this is what it became:

 

उल्टै सोधिन् प्रियतमले - किन भनेको ओहो !

मैले भने - तिमी त आयौ, तर साथमा को हो ?

 

Yesterday, we were celebrating the eve of republic in a small email group of friends. Here is my share. It has some solemn reflections that I could not hold.

 

 

> Friends,

>

> While we celebrate our dreams coming true, we must not forget two things.

> One, those known and unknown fellowmen who gave their lives for the cause

> and those fellowmen who suffered at the hands of insurgents and the rulers

> for no good reasons, whose lives and dignities were rubbed, whose

> whereabouts is still unknown and we don't know if they are celebrating the

> day or have left that part to us. Republic has come with great prices, both

> acceptable and unacceptable. Our celebration will be incomplete without

> letting those who bore the burden of the impure war fought in the name of

> republic know that we owe our republic, our celebration and optimism for

> future to their sacrifice, endurance and hope. Let's pay a tribute to them

> with our tears of sorrow for the dirty past and our hope and determination

> for a clean and blessed future.

>

> Our determination for a clean and blessed future can only be possible with

> our awareness about and acknowledgment of truth. And the truth is that,

> there are people who don't want to let the truth be known. And there are

> people who don't want to know the truth. But we have no right to eat the

> fruit of the republic without knowing the full truth about the price some

> people who are either no more with us or are waiting for their sufferings to

> be acknowledged and healed, paid. Let's make a promise today that we shall

> know the truth about all wounds, heal them and leave no stones unturned to

> bring the abusers to justice.

>

> On the same note of our awareness, we must also be aware and acknowledge

> that we have some political parties which have reluctantly accepted

> "republic" part and others who have reluctantly accepted "democratic" part

> of the "democratic republic" we are celebrating today. It is only common

> Nepali folks who have longed and embraced "democratic republic" in full and

> wholeheartedly and who will defend it against any deviation from any party

> no matter how powerful they may be. So let's common Nepali folks know how

> the republic depends on them and let the political parties know our

> conditional acceptance to them.

>

> Republic is love of our lives and we shall defend it against any power,

> whoever and however they are.

>

> Long live Democratic Republic of Nepal !

>

> DK

 

__ __ __ __ __ __

 

Nepe

Last edited: 07-Jan-09 08:38 AM
 
उनले शान्तिमा पनि पुरस्कारयोग्य योगदान पुर्‍याउन सक्ने ठाउँ छ । कान्तिपुर सम्पादकियमा भनिए जस्तै यदि वा जुन दिन माओवादीको फौजी संरचनाको त्यागपूर्ण अन्त्य हुन्छ, त्यस दिन त्यो त्यागपूर्णताको मुल्यांकन शान्तिको लागि योगदानको रुपमा हुनसक्छ । त्यसैले यस्तो पुरस्कार अलि चाडो कामै नसकिकन भयो भन्ने कुरामा म सहमत छु । तर योगदानको कदरको रुपमा नभएर बरु योगदान गर्न प्रोत्साहित गर्ने प्रयोजनको निम्ति पुरस्कार दिईएको हो भने पुरस्कारको नाम त्यसै अनुरुपको शान्ति प्रोत्साहन पुरस्कार वा यस्तै केही बढी उपयुक्त हुने थियो । http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=122&ThreadID=60904#605967
Last edited: 07-Jan-09 08:48 AM
 
The following posting by Nepe makes more sense to me:
 
 

हरिदाई,

 

जनताले क्षमा दिईसके भन्ने तपाईको निर्क्योल/सिफारिस मा भने मेरो विमती छ ।

 

द्वन्दकालभरिमा हतियार बोकेर मर्न र मार्न भनेरै हिडेकाहरु (combatants) को ज्यान, भौतिक क्षति र मुलुककै भौतिक संरचनामा भएका क्षतिसम्म जनताले बिर्सिदिए भन्न सम्म सकिन्छ होला । तर कसैको केही बिगार नगरेका, निर्दोष सर्वसाधारणहरु (non-combatant civilian) माथि ज्यानै लिने, अंगभंग गर्ने र बेपत्ता पार्ने सम्मका युद्ध अपराधहरु राज्य र विद्रोही दुवै पक्षबाट भएका छन् र ती पीडितका प्रियजनहरु सूचना र न्यायको प्रतिक्षामा बसिरहेका छन्, भौतारिईरहेका छन् भन्ने कुरा तपाईको आँखाले देखेकै/पढेकै हुनुपर्छ, तपाईको कानले सुनेकै हुनुपर्छ र तपाईको आत्माले मनन गरेकै हुनुपर्छ ।

 

अब ती पीडित र तीनका प्रियजनहरुलाई तपाई कसरी जनताले अपराधिहरुलाई क्षमा दिईसके, अब तिमीहरु घर जाओ भन्न सक्नुहुन्छ ?

 

त्यसैले साथी यो मामला अहिले थाती रहेको मात्र हो, अन्त्य भएको होईन । जस्तोसुकै कठीन र जटील भएपनि, जतिसुकै समय लागे पनि न्यायको दिन आउँछ आउँछ र जिम्मेबार अपराधीहरु जस्तोसुकै स्थानमा भएपनि न्यायको कठघरामा उभिन पुग्नेछन् भन्ने कुरा अन्य मुलुकमा दशकौं पछि पनि न्यायप्रक्रिया सक्रिय रहेका उदाहरणले पनि देखाउँदछन् ।

 

यत्ति हो त्यो मामला अहिले वस्तुत: थाती रहेको र मुलुकको राजनैतिक पुनर्संरचना जस्ता पर्खिन नमिल्ने कामहरुमा मुलुक व्यस्त रहेको मात्र हो । त्यसैले बिग्रेको केही पनि छैन, निराश हुनुपर्ने कुरा पनि छैन र हात बाँधेर बस्न हुने बेला पनि होईन ।

 

न्यायप्रणालीलाई स्वतन्त्र राख्न चनाखो रहेर, न्यायको मुद्धालाई मनबाट कहिले हट्न नदिई, मुलुकको रुपान्तरणलाई सहयोग गर्दै गए यो काम पनि फत्ते हुन्छ, न्यायको दिन पनि चाडै आउँछ ।

 

हाम्रो राष्ट्रिय जीवन यही हो, जीवनको यथार्थ यही हो ।

 

Nepe

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openthread.cfm.cfm?StartRow=1&PageNum=1&forum=2&threadid=63906

 

It seems that Nepe was very positive and hopeful on Maoists in the begining of Republic Nepal, but as days passed, he is not happy with Maoist performance, but still hopes to bring them on track (based on what he wrote a few weeks back: a slap on Maoist might bring them to a right track). I am yet to do research on Nepe's postings in pre-republic-nepal era. Nepe seems to be slowly shifting his views on Maoists based on their performance. It is understandable. Nepe is really a difficult person to understand in Sajha.com whether he is: an opportunist (waiting in the middle for opportunities) or a strong man who has his own strong belief and understanding on world. Time will show who he is. Keep watching. He is certainly not a simple Dahi Chiure Nepali, that much I have understood from his recent postings.

Last edited: 07-Jan-09 09:10 AM

 
Posted on 01-08-09 11:36 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

 


Bathroom,


 


If you are really interested to judge the choices we made in the past, here is how it was.


 


With yet to be competent leadership of the parliamentary parties on one hand and the irrepressible/irreversible momentum for pro-republic movement on the other at the time around Jana-andolan, there were three dumb choices and one right one:


 


· The dumbest choice:


(as made by people like Bathroom and some Sajhaites)


Support the king or at least oppose the pro-republic movement


 


· Dumber Choice:


(as made by the old generation/elite Nepalese)


Support the parliament parties anyway


 


· Dumb choice:


(as made by the senior citizens of the Citizen Movement )


Oppose monarchy and pay lip service or keep quite about other parties’ inadequacies


 


· Right choice:


(Made by Nepe and not too many people)


Support the pro-republic movement without being complacent about the inadequacies of the leadership of political parties and Maoist.


 


 


 


Now I would like to share, particularly with CEO ji, the choice I had made and my share of endeavor to influence the movers and shakers I had access to at that time.


 


Below are two pieces written to an influencing aguwa of then citizen’s movement (posted in Nepal Democracy Forum).


 


Please note in the highlighted part how I had anticipated the current situation (Maoist running over the political parties and running the show without being fully qualified to) and suggested the solution (empowerment of the political parties through their ideological and organizational reform)


 



 


 


 


From: DK


To: [email protected]


Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 02:11:49 -0000


Subject: Re: belated response to ZZji


 


X-jee,


 


Thank you for your reply. (You mixed up ZZ-jee with me. However, I


can separate my part in your reply).


 


I know you are a very busy man. So I will try to be brief and talk


about only one major point in this follow up.


 


My major question, if I rephrase, was whether Girija Prasad Koirala jyu


(No, not the president of NC, but the Commander of the movement for


democracy. I would also add that it is not limited to physical Girija


Prasad Koirala jyu.) is competent ENOUGH to lead and successfully


conclude the movement. I am assuming that it is now fairly certain that


the movement will not conclude in any other way than re-writing the


constitution.


 


X-jee, I gather from your reply that you think that the movement is


able to go ahead with the status quo, if not a leadership in a real


sense, of Girija Babu. Let's hope you are right.


 


However, the way I see it, there are two problems, one old and the


other one new, regarding Girija Babu's leadership/status quo for the


movement.


 


OLD PROBLEM: Girija Babu's supreme status in the movement is repelling


or failing to attract the common people to the movement.


 


My proof:


(i) the vast number of common people who are still reluctant to join


political movement (A quick interview with a small sample of them will


certainly verify my assertion)


 


(ii) recent dramatic increase in people's participation in political


rallies have either associated with pro-republic civil society's


initiative (the earlier phase) or with the Maoists (needless to


emphasize that they are pro-republic) tacit arrival to the movement in


understanding (post-12 points MoU rallies). None of the crowed rallies


were inspired by Girija Babu.


 


(Here I want to make a point to ZZ-jee who actually made a point


from this that the movement has passed beyond the question of Girija


Babu's leadership. And my point is that, yes, it has, for this mass, at


least mentally. However this mass is still physically at the mercy of


the political decisions Girija Babu makes. Then, there is a vast bigger


mass, described in #(i) above, that has still issue with what Girija


Babu's supreme status in the movement represents.)


 


 


NEW PROBLEM: The Maoists are stealing the show.


 


 


I do not have to discuss this one with X-jee. Nobody understands


this one better than X-jee who is following every development so


intimately, both professionally and intellectually.


 


The Maoists have landed. And they are not coming empty hand. They are


coming with a clear goal, solid roadmap, absolute determination and an


army. Everything (except the army) that people were so desperately


looking for and everything that Girija Babu (the leadership) failed to


give.


 


I think It is emergency time for political parties and the movement


that wants to be led by them. The movement got to find a competent and


aggressively competitive (to the Maoists) leadership before it is too


late.


 


I rest my case. However, I am restless. I am restless thinking if


people (and civil society) have already started to give up on Girija


Babu and look up to the reformed Maoists.


 


 


I will be checking all papers and pratikriyas.


 


 


Regards,


DK


http://groups.google.com/group/nepaldemocracy/msg/01a5ec53f104a007?hl=en


 



 


 


 


 


 


From: DK


To: [email protected]


Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:43:58 -0500


Subject: Re: [ND] Re: DEMAND FOR MAOIST CEASEFIRE


 


 


X-jee and all friends,


 


I have been carrying a serious complaints about lack of STRINGENCY


in pro-democracy activism of  the civil society in Nepal.


 


Before explaining my complaint, however, I would like to talk about


the things I admire Nepal's civil society (CS) about.


 


I admire CS for it's strong grasp that peace and democracy are


connected. SC no more talks about absolute or abstract peace in


Nepal. Thanks to King Gyanendra's take over, it has opened


everybody's eyes. Otherwise the discourse on peace before Oct 2002


used to be frustratingly abstract, so much so that Baburam Bhattarai


used to ridicule by pointing that.


 


I also admire CS for getting out of "twin-pillars" box of democracy.


Once again with due thanks to King Gyanendra for revealing the


bricks one pillar is actually made up of.


 


I also admire CS for finally recognizing/identifying THE PEOPLE


(Constituent Assembly/ Popular movement ) as the party that has


the ultimate legitimacy and power to resolve the conflict the way


it wants.


 


However, there seems some confusion about it's stance on the


nature of movement, political leadership and, more importantly,


 about post-conflict building of the nation.


 


And this confusion, the way I see it, is not due to lack of knowledge


about democracy or due to lack of intelligence to evaluate leadership


 or due to lack of imagination to speculate about future.


 


This confusion, the way I see it, is due to being unsure about whether


STRINGENCY or LAXNESS is more helpful to build a political


 movement. Err.. , No, actually CS seems to believe that STRINGENCY


 towards the perceived bigger enemy and LAXNESS towards lesser


enemy is the way to go.


 


That might be a good strategy for other situations in life, but not for the


movement for democracy in Nepal.


 


The movement for democracy in Nepal is not a uni-dimensional movement


for "restoration" or even "establishment" of democracy.


 


The movement for democracy in Nepal is a multi-dimensional


(three-dimensional, to be exact) movement for "re-defining" democracy.


 


Yes, "re-defining", but not really in unlimited way. The way democracy


 has come to this point of our history for re-definition, there are only


THREE elements to be fixed. Let's say, we have three anti-democracy


elements to reject. That's all. That will complete the job. The three


anti-democracy elements that need to be rejected by our democracy are,


 


1. Illegitimate Ambition (king's)


2. Extremism (Maoists')


3. Unpopularity (Political leadership's)


 


These three elements are inter-dependent. As a matter of fact, the


stalemate we talk about is the stalemate of ambition, extremism and


unpopularity of the King, the Maoists and the supreme leadership of


 the major party/ies, respectively. Being lax or apologetic or prioritized


about one and stringent or militant about another will not work,


because that will make you one of the parties itself.


 


The problems of Nepal's democracy is extremely clear


[to general mass]. So forget about LAXNESS. You got to


be STRINGENT to every anti-democratic element and parties.


Otherwise you won't get people's trust. And without people's


trust, you can only go so far.


 


CS in Nepal is the most trusted among all organized things at the


moment. However, if it fails to exhibit it's stringent approach as I


described above, I am afraid it is going to lose that trust soon. That


will be the most disastrous thing to happen.


 


So, I think, CS has one extremely rigorous test to pass/ show to


people, which is that it is not soft to any of the three anti-democratic


characters of three political payers in Nepal.


 


CS needs to do the following three things rigorously, simultaneously


and with perseverance,


 


1. Reject King's ambition (at the moment this is only thing CS is


 rigorous about)


2. Reject Maoist's extremism ( what CS is doing is not stringent enough)


3. Reject unpopular leaders of the leading parties (this is what CS is not


sure about to do).


 


Regarding (1), no suggestion is necessary. CS is doing great.


 


Regarding (2), I am glad to hear CS's request (make that a demand)


to the Maoists for a seize-fire. Now, what is left is a demand that


Maoists issue a public pratigya-patra declaring "multi-party


democracy" as their final and unalterable principle from now on.


 


Regarding (3), Demand political parties to give leave to leaders


convicted by CIAA for now and find a new commander for


Loktantrik andolan. Girija Prasad Koirala is incompetent for the job.


 


If CS has guts to do all of the above karmas, then all good things


will follow. We do not need to worry. "Karmanye va dhikarasthe,


Ma phaleshu kadachana".


 


Apurna karma garee, purna phal ko asha rakhna chhadaun. अपूर्ण कर्म गरी पूर्ण फलको आसा राख्‍न छाडौं ।


 


Sincerely,


DK


http://groups.google.com/group/nepaldemocracy/msg/f74fe1a1cb76043d?hl=en



 


 


 
Posted on 01-08-09 11:38 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

CEO Ji,


 


Thank you so much for your guarded yet kind words to me and for your general interest about my views and position.


 


I am an ordinary average Joe when it comes to the resources I have and how I live my life. However, there are few things I have been careful to keep intact against all pressure, temptation and odds. Thanks to my political disillusion at a very early age and other lucky happenstances and learning. They say power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. So If I got sold out in future, it would not be any wonder. However what I have now is already working as an aphrodisiac for me. So I am really hopeful that I am not going to be a sell-out, at least not very cheaply, anytime soon.


 


As for my pre-Jana-andolan views and stuff, I would like to invite you to one posting that I had posted some 5 years ago here in Sajha as a reply to Ashu’s questioning about republicanism at that time.


 


This is a must read piece for all those who are interested to know all about my political views, at least the way of my reasoning.


 


WHY REPUBLICANISM FOR NEPAL


Posted in Sajha: 03 September 2003


http://www.dkhadka.com/chithi/en/WhyRepublicanism.mht


 


 As a motivation, I can perhaps tell the story that I have an impressive list of people who said the piece made a deep impact on their thinking about republicanism. And for honesty’s sake, I must also admit that I have also a frustrating list of otherwise very thoughtful people who were not influenced by the piece until republic actually came.


 


Hope you will have patience to at least browse some random lines in the piece.


 


best,


Nepe


 
Posted on 01-09-09 9:50 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

· The dumbest choice:



(as made by people like Bathroom and some Sajhaites)



Support the king or at least oppose the pro-republic movement


 


Oh Really!!  I supported the Monarchy ? When ? Please refresh my DUMB memory O WISE ONE. ha ha ha


 



· Dumber Choice:



(as made by the old generation/elite Nepalese)



Support the parliament parties anyway


 


Oh really ? hahaha Says who ? Says Nepe Maharaj who knows nothing but to point fingers and blame others rather than admiting his own mistake and MURKHYAYIII.


 


 



 



· Dumb choice:



(as made by the senior citizens of the Citizen Movement )



Oppose monarchy and pay lip service or keep quite about other parties’ inadequacies



 SAY WHAAA ? HA HA HA  And you were not playing Lip Service screaming Gyaney Chor Desh Chod on the top of your lungs ? ha ha ha Hasaucha. And yes all of Nepali folks are dumb and Nepe is the only SMAAT ONE in all of Nepal.


· Right choice:



(Made by Nepe and not too many people)



Support the pro-republic movement without being complacent about the inadequacies of the leadership of political parties and Maoist.


 


And yes that is why we are in the predicament we wre in now.  That is why the Maoist gave you guys Takmaa for helping them take over the country.  That is why Nepali Janata is suffering now thanks to Geniuses like you.  


 
Posted on 01-09-09 11:13 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

hahahaha BathroomCoffee is a true anarchist and does not has any affiliations. I know that for a fact and anyone with a course in political philosophy can interpret that. So Nepe  would be wrong if he suggested that.


However, please do note that no one can save Nepal other then the Monarchy. The sooner you can realize that the better. Cause Maoists are terrorists and has only one agenda….. Make everyone poor and cry with them….. Kind of Indira Gandhi’s policy in India. Also, they r terrorists, which Indira Gandhi was no, so even worse. Also, they have no clue of doing anything except murder and it takes brains to do anything.


 


 
Posted on 01-09-09 11:24 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

Some fools still believe that those who oppose jangali terrorists are royalist.


 


 


 
Posted on 01-09-09 11:31 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

While self appointed leaders like Nepe bask in the glory of their air conditioned offices and houses, accusing anyone who oppose the maoists as royalists, here's something from Ktm which deals with half a day of no electricity, from someone who's had to face shameless maoist actions of intimidation and exploitation and yet still stands strong enough to oppose their barbaric acts. Kudos to Ashu on his resilience.

ASHUTOSH TIWARI






Strictly Business





Spinning out of control










ASHUTOSH TIWARI































Suppose, on one fine Sunday, young people
affiliated with your political party storm into a media house, beat up
managers and journalists and smash windows and furniture. The incident
makes national and international news. What do you do?

First,
you deny that the incident happened at all, and that even if it did
happen, your cadres were not involved. Pressed with evidence, you then
say that it was actually the media staff who hired goons to beat up
your staff when they had gone for a meeting. Later, you change the
story to say that ex-royalists who had infiltrated your ranks were the
ones who carried out the attacks, thereby giving your party a bad name.

A
day later, you make light of the attack, saying that only light beating
had taken place, and that no murder had been committed. But as
pressures mount, you finally send two named accused to surrender to the
police. For a few days, they are kept in police custody, where they are
served food from five-star restaurants and entertained by visits from
ministers. Once the accused are released on bail, which amounts to a
slap on the wrist, you make sure that they melt into the shadows.
Thanks to your art of spin you carry on as if nothing has happened,
while your henchmen gloss over details to paint the whole episode as
oppression by feudal capitalists.

Take another example. You
force temple priests to submit resignations. You replace them with two
local priests of your liking. You don't care about local sentiments nor
about hundreds of years of history. You justify it in the name of
nationalism, even though patriotism is the refuge of scoundrels.
Guarded by goons, you force open the temple gates so the new priests
could offer prayers to Shiva.

Still, when a group of
disgruntled junior priests stage a press conference to air their
grievances, you send your goons again to beat them up in broad daylight
in front of the media. Your hooligans also deliberately beat up some
reporters and damage their equipment. Then you tell the same
journalists on camera that your young communists were there to protect
the temple from violence. The Supreme Court issues an edict to you to
not touch the temple. But you carry on as if these man-made laws do not
apply to your decisions, and that these protests will run out of steam
soon. After a few days of intense protests from the public and negative
media coverage in India, you meekly withdraw your decisions.

These
two incidents show that in today's 24/7 media, you can't go on covering
one lie with another lie. True, you may shout the loudest by using
half-truths to your advantage. Sooner or later, you will be found out,
and voters and well-wishers will stop trusting you. When you are seen
as untrustworthy, you don't function as a government for long.

Sure,
you can harass those in opposition by issuing death threats, but that
is not why people elected you to power. They voted for you to get on
with the business of drafting the constitution so that 28 million
Nepalis can understand what the agreed-upon guidelines of the game are
for their success, prosperity and happiness in Nepal.



 
Posted on 01-12-09 5:31 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

http://www.mysansar.com/?p=3569


मैले खोल्न नसकेको रक्षा-कवच तिमीले खोलेर
मैले मोल्न नसकेको जोखिम तिमीले मोलेर
मैले बोल्नपर्ने कुराहरु तिमीले बोलेर

एकैचोटी मेरो वर्तमानलाई निरर्थक र
मेरो भविष्यलाई सार्थक बनाईदिएकी छ्यौ

तिमीसंग ईर्श्या गरुँ कि कृतज्ञ बनुँ ?
वा कुन मुखले क्षमा पाउँ भनुँ ?

यही ग्लानी, रिक्तता र हरणबोधको
श्रद्धाञ्जली तिमीलाई
सात समुन्द्रपारको पलायनबाट
यो भगुवाको !

Nepe
12 Jan 2009

 
Posted on 01-12-09 7:53 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
Login in to Rate this Post:     0       ?    
 

With all due respect to Ashu and company, it is amazing that the Kathmandu based patrakars/elites/embassy, everybody, do all they could when a few mudkas were hit on some powerful people in ktm--ashuji even making us hope that this incidence could provide tipping point. I am sure not much will be done even with Miss Singh.

Why? The answer is obvious. These people sleep before they are attacked, they sleep after their attackers are 'punished'. They continue to provide space for maoists supporters in their media.

Can you believe a man called to take responsibility of the murder. And said, they actually wanted to kill someone else. I guess he too thinks prachanda-like-I-am-sorry is enough to get immunity. If prachanda gets away with the 'i-am-sorry' after 40 innocents' killing in chitwan or ramharsi shrestha's killing, why not this terrorist?

atti bho.
 



PAGE: <<  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8  
Please Log in! to be able to reply! If you don't have a login, please register here.

YOU CAN ALSO



IN ORDER TO POST!




Within last 200 days
Recommended Popular Threads Controvertial Threads
TPS Re-registration case still pending ..
Anybody gotten the TPS EAD extension alert notice (i797) thing? online or via post?
TPS EAD auto extended to June 2025 or just TPS?
nrn citizenship
Toilet paper or water?
Mamta kafle bhatt is still missing
ढ्याउ गर्दा दसैँको खसी गनाउच
ChatSansar.com Naya Nepal Chat
whats wrong living with your parents ?
Tourist Visa - Seeking Suggestions and Guidance
TPS advance parole Travel document i-131, Class of Admission ?
Now Trump is a convicted criminal .
Ajay Kumar Dev sentenced to 378 yrs
Biden said he will issue new Employment visa for someone with college degree and job offers
Why Americans reverse park?
Problems of Nepalese students in US
Nepali Passport Renewal
lost $3500 on penny stocks !!!
Biden out, Trump next president, so what’s gonna happen to TPS, termination?
They are openly permitting undocumented immigrants to participate in federal elections in Arizona now.
NOTE: The opinions here represent the opinions of the individual posters, and not of Sajha.com. It is not possible for sajha.com to monitor all the postings, since sajha.com merely seeks to provide a cyber location for discussing ideas and concerns related to Nepal and the Nepalis. Please send an email to [email protected] using a valid email address if you want any posting to be considered for deletion. Your request will be handled on a one to one basis. Sajha.com is a service please don't abuse it. - Thanks.

Sajha.com Privacy Policy

Like us in Facebook!

↑ Back to Top
free counters