एनात्वृतम नित्यमिदम हि सर्वम ज्ञ: कालकारो गुणी सर्वविद य: I
तेनेशितम कर्म विवर्ततेह प्रिथिव्यप्तेजोनिलखानि चिन्त्यम II २ II

It should be known that energy assumes various forms such as earth, water, light, air, and space at the command of Him who is the master of Gunas (Satva, Rajas, & Tamas) and the maker of time, who is omniscient who is pure consciousness itself, and by whom all this is ever enveloped. (Svetasvatara Upanishad)

The veda power is a hoax unless you can show something for real. Can you show one example of how veda power is doing something amazing in this time and age?

Funtush. Not all of it is hoax. We just have to remember the age and context they were written in.
One example: Meditation and Yoga. Scientific community is finally realizing the benefits of meditation and Yoga.

Ujl, you first go and fight with Muslims/Jews/Christians/Buddhists/Etc and figure out which is the true religion/god. If you win, you then come fight with us here in Sajha.

Wow, it's an engaging concept. A hundred years ago information about others' culture and religion was not flowing (or shared) the same way it does today. My grandfather might not have been as much knowledgeable about Islam or Zionism or even Zoroastrian as the above threader mentioned. I am just wondering how religion and philosophy will shape in the next fifty to hundred years. I had never given a thought..not that it is utterly important. Just something to think about.

@Uji: As you said the modern government and society has not given higher priority to vedas. So, what was India and Nepal doing before 100 years back. I remember my grandfather saying, he has to go to India Banaras for study. So, what was stopping 100 years back. When the European country and US was building factories and plane, what was our highly culture vedas people doing. Were they confining their education on themself. I know there are few people like vivekananadan who did spread few words. Was there only few knowledgeable people then. Was is not able to influence the people? Remember Bhanu bhaka translated ramayana into Nepali and it has not been long time.

Ujl says the true Vedic philosophy is not being practiced in Hindu majority countries like Nepal and India. That is true. It is also true the likes of ISIS/Al Qaeda also say the same thing about Sharia law in Muslim majority countries. Somehow, Ujl/ISIS/Al Qaeda think implementing the Vedas/Sharia will solve all problems. They don't realize that we're here because we already tried those. That doesn't mean what we have today is perfect because it is not. But come up with something innovative and not the same tried and failed philosophies. I'll grant you this, religion can give one a sense of purpose and get him/her out of depression. But, that doesn't mean it can solve all the world's problem. That doesn't mean they can claim to know everything including God.

Question: Why did Sanskrit disappear?
Answer: Because it couldn't survive evolution game.
Question: Why is religion still here?
Answer: Because it still has value to offer to society.

@ Ujl

i totally believe in science. it fancys me. all those calculations and chemical product is just my thing. i think there is nothing on this would without science.
BUT when u talked about Vedas i believe in them too. Everyone is arguing that Vedas cannot solve their everyday problem and this would had come to end now how vedas gonna save it. i def don't have answers for all those but Vedas are extremely powerful.. believe me i am not BS here as i told i love science but i will never say vedas is crap not that i am totally religious person either. if you truly read vedas like Ujl said most of the modern science innovations had been already been discovered way back in time. the thing that baffles me is why did those things not continue and we have way better would around us. vedas had it that people were able to control mind all about atomic explosion, flying, surgical transplant and most interesting thing for me about time and space. Thats the most interesting thing in vedas is about time. i would love to discuss more on vedas and gita @ujl

one question to everyone..anyone remembers what is THE very first word in Mahabharata..? its very interesting

One interesting theory,

what the vedas has written is true. But not in this planet, some other planet. The alien came to earth and gave people a way to live. Then the alien gave some interesting fact about their research and some of the inventions they already have in their planet. It is also possible that those alien taught some of these to the rishi munis and those somehow educated people wrote about those things in the book. Sanskrit may not be the language developed by indian. It may have been provided by alien.
Do not know but suddenly this thought came to my mind. If aliens are smart and much more advanced than us, definitely this is possible. They can travel in the speed of light. And to do that, they need to know the information about the atoms and stuffs. Then only they will be able to fly at this speed.
There is also highly possible that we human being do lots of research about new habitation and stuffs. Same way some aliens maybe researching on us.
Let me know if someone in Sajha has somewhat similar thinking.
Regards

Gonecrazy ...you are breaking our honor code. First Bono and now you. Yes we come from Zooropa. That's it. Don't give them any more clue.
Also, zytlix says hi!

I am all for Vedas, but I think they have their own respective position where they should be commended. Some of the Vedas are the result of extensive work of study and perhaps research.
They have provided answers to life's philosophical quests as well as other subjects such as astrology, health, finance/economy and to some extent, science.

But to say Vedas had the understanding to predict many of the phenomenon we are experiencing now is to derive different meaning from Vedas. I don't think Vedas claimed to do so, nor should it be interpreted to do so.

Science on the other hand is always in a quest to update itself. We discover new things and come up with new conclusions. What fascinates me is how the theoretical world of science extends to the practical one - like the atomic bomb or space exploration. Equally fascinating is how predictions that the scientists made are coming true now. Take for example Einstein's prediction that since light bends due to gravity (in the simplest term), we might see multiple images of the same heavenly bodies (stars) at one instance. This is what Scientists discovered recently; they saw same supernova exploding four times. This is because light - which scattered and travelled through different galaxy and had different bends- travelled to our telescope through four different paths. It's fascinating to think that Einstein could predict this phenomenon decades ago when we didn't have technology to confirm the theory - let alone observe anything.

To say Vedas had this capability is to insult both Science and Vedas. Vedas never claimed to have it, that was not its objective.